Friday, September 18, 2009

yes, still getting up early mornings before work to read epic fantasy...

On page 549 of The Dragon Reborn (the third book in The Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan), one [male] character says this to another:
"Any fool knows men and women think differently at times, but the biggest difference is this. Men forget, but never forgive. Women forgive, but never forget."

Discuss.

[I'm putting some further directive prompts in the first comment for those who want to play.] Happy Friday!

47 comments:

moonrat said...

Further prompts, should you like to discuss them specifically:

1) Is it true?

2) Is THE WHEEL OF TIME patriarchical trash, as it has been accused of?

3) If you believe the answer to #2 is yes, to you read and adore anyway? Does this make you hate yourself, or are you ok with it at this point?

4) How far are you in YOUR rereading of THE WHEEL OF TIME?

5) Are you going to any stops on Brandon Sanderson's rather back-breaking release tour for THE GATHERING STORM?

6) Have you chosen your favorite character name yet?

7) Are you relieved or disappointed that Moonrat has revealed her penchant for epic fantasy, after all these years of hiding behind literary fiction?

8) Would you go to a Wheel of Time convention if you heard of one?

9) Would you wear a costume?

Sean Ferrell said...

I'll never forgive you for posting this. Wait... posting what? Hmmm...

moonrat said...

hahahahahaha. thanks for opening the floor, Sean.

Paige Bruce said...

1) Is it true?

Being a chick, I definitely know the second is true. :D

2) Is THE WHEEL OF TIME patriarchical trash, as it has been accused of?

No, there are some very strong female characters in the story, which kind of counteracts that, imo.

4) How far are you in YOUR rereading of THE WHEEL OF TIME?

Uhhh...book one. I need to find them all again.

5) Are you going to any stops on Brandon Sanderson's rather back-breaking release tour for THE GATHERING STORM?

Is he coming to Canada? :S I'd rather get him to sign my copy of Warbreaker, heh.

7) Are you relieved or disappointed that Moonrat has revealed her penchant for epic fantasy, after all these years of hiding behind literary fiction?

Happy for you. Fantasy is the way to go.

8) Would you go to a Wheel of Time convention if you heard of one?

They'd never come to my area.

9) Would you wear a costume?

...possibly.

Is this what you were looking for? RJ's wife was too heavily involved with the novel for it to really be too sexist, I think. Also, I'm totally of the "Forgiven, never forgotten" type. Heh.

Ellen said...

1) No.

2) Yes.

3) Yes.

4) I'm rereading A Song of Ice and Fire instead!

5) I don't know! The NY one is on a friend's birthday (a friend who hates epic fantasy), which is distressing.

7) RELIEVED. And apt to start recommending more.

8) ...probably.

9) I would at least braid my hair and tug on it all the time.

Kimber Chin said...

I have no memory at all so I always forget. I usually forgive too because I can't remember why I'm angry at the person. If it is a big fight, I take notes so I'll remember.

The hubby's response to arguments? Let's sleep on it. He knows I won't remember the argument tomorrow.

D. Robert Pease said...

I just bought The Eye of the World based on your recommendation. I haven't cracked the spine yet so I can't comment on his take on men and women, but I will say in my experience it is true. My wife NEVER forgets, and I NEVER remember (until she reminds me :-) The forgiving part is where it becomes tricky. From my male view of things, if it isn't forgotten is it really forgiven? But I know I struggle with anything that isn't black and white, and forgiving without forgetting is definitely grey.

Kate said...

I haven't read it yet. I become a WoT widow for a month or two every few years as my husband re-reads the whole thing. This includes now. Luckily he's a fast reader. If we were both into it, the kids would never get fed.

Kiersten White said...

I will admit this whole epic fantasy thing adds a dimension of quirk to your personality that I find downright adorable.

I read books one through seven in junior high, but finally quit when he was on his THIRD woman. Simultaneously. Being Mormon and all, I kind of have a thing against polygamy. One woman just isn't enough for the Dragon Reborn? COME ON. He's not THAT cool.

Anyway. I've always said that if I ever get put on bedrest, I'll go ahead and reread them. In the meantime, I'll just love the fact that you are a huge, huge dork.

In the best possible way, of course.

Susan Adsett said...

1) Not really: I've known some guys who NEVER forget a slight - and women who have never forgiven one

2) The dichotomy between male and female is a major theme of the book - I think that will inherently lead to some patriarchical positions

3) I'm OK with it (although I do occassionally roll my eyes)

4) nowhere - I'm going off my years old memory!

5) nope

6) ohhh - tough one

7) yay epic fantasy!

8) OK, not that yay.

9) ummm... no. Although I'd probably really like to make one.

Chad Sayban said...

Maybe, but since we men can't remember anything anyway, how can we remember who we need to not forgive...

...what was the question again?

Moira Rogers - Bree said...

I remember that line very clearly. I didn't like it. I didn't forget OR forgive. OH GOD WHAT AM I?!

1) It's true in a world where all men are the same and all women are the same. (Happy Stereotypeville?)

2&3) I hated Eddings & Jordan equally in my teen years for writing books I loved to read but presenting "strong" women as caricatures of themselves. I never hated them enough to stop reading, of course, but I have gotten a little bitter in my old age that the only way to be a strong personality in these books is to yell at (or make quiet but scathing comments about) men, often for ridiculous reasons, and have them cringe. I don't think abuse = strength. /rant

4) No way, I'm not rereading until it's ALL DONE.

5) No.

6) Lan. I can spell it consistently.

7) Relieved!

8) Maaaaybe. If it was close by.

9) I'm not sure I'm that dedicated. I could braid my hair?

Laurel said...

Alas, alack, I lack the background. I started the first and never really sank my teeth into it but methinks I'll have to give it another go!

And yes, as a general rule, I agree with the pithy statement regarding men and women. Like all general rules regarding the sexes there are exceptions.

Laurel said...

Oooooh!

WVS: poligm

had to put that in there after the reference to multiple women and Mormons!

S.K. Azoulay said...

In the short story "Legend" Jorge Luis Borges wrote of a meeting between Cain and Abel, where Cain asks for forgiveness:
"'Was it you that killed me, or did I kill you?' Abel answered, 'I don't remember anymore; here we are, together, like before.'
'Now I know that you have truly forgiven me,' Cain said, 'because forgetting is forgiving. I, too, will try to forget.'
'Yes,' said Abel slowly, 'So long as remorse lasts, guilt lasts.'"

(I apologize for classing up the discussion)

moonrat said...

Kiersten--no sugar! for serious here. i definitely tug my braid at that.

heehee i always wondered whether that had anything to do with why those insensitive bastards chose Brandon to finish off the series? i just feel like someone is messing with us.

Lydia Sharp said...

Haha. I don't care if it's true or not, that's hilarious, and some damn good writing.

By the way, ratty, you might want to check out Laura's post on PMN...something about you being a Shakespeare-stealer...

Anna Claire said...

Ha, Kate! I too am currently a WoT bride as the hubs is rereading the series. I've never read the books(epic fantasy not my thing) but now I'm wondering exactly what kind of patriarchal trash he's filling his mind with...

8) yes we would be at a WoT convention if there was one. Hubs would drag me there; can I wear a costume?

Marsha Sigman said...

I think this is true: I am the grudge keeper in the family. I forgive but I have to remind my husband or he repeats the same mistakes.

I would also never pass up an opportunity to wear a costume.

Rachel said...

I forgive and forget, because I consciously forgive and tell myself I need to forget. Anything else is so stereotypical woman, that I guess it must be true for most women a lot of the time.

And I do really forget. My husband had a hard time with the forgive thing until we'd been together long enough that he realized I never held anything against him and it was worthless to do so himself.

I think in any good relationship, it's easy for both to go down the wrong path with this, but going on the right path usually takes one person starting first and asking the other to come along.

Way too philosophical, probably!

Robert W. Leonard said...

1) Is it true?

Yes, definitely!

2) Is THE WHEEL OF TIME patriarchical trash, as it has been accused of?

No, the believable characters are what makes the series for me. Whether people admit they behaved that way as kids or not. Hehe.

3) If you believe the answer to #2 is yes, to you read and adore anyway? Does this make you hate yourself, or are you ok with it at this point?

4) How far are you in YOUR rereading of THE WHEEL OF TIME?

Book #6

5) Are you going to any stops on Brandon Sanderson's rather back-breaking release tour for THE GATHERING STORM?

Yep, he's coming here to Dallas!

6) Have you chosen your favorite character name yet?

Egwene, hands down.

7) Are you relieved or disappointed that Moonrat has revealed her penchant for epic fantasy, after all these years of hiding behind literary fiction?

Not that surprising, I think everyone has a secret love for fantasy (though maybe not epic).

8) Would you go to a Wheel of Time convention if you heard of one?

One of these days I'll go to JordanCon, maybe.

9) Would you wear a costume?

I could dig being a Warder or a day. Do they allow swords? ;)

JES said...

It would be unwise for me to comment on the Jordan quote, but I always thought Dave Barry provided the definitive answer in a piece which I just found online (there and about a gazillion other sites).

Since I haven't ever so much as peeked at the cover of a Wheel of Time book, of your other prompts the only one I can answer is #7, and yes: relieved.

Oh, and on #6, I don't know if this name appears in any of the WoT books, but my favorite character name is "Tulley," as a first name.

Imogen said...

Confession time - I gave up on TWT at (I think) book six - because I got bored. That was a first, for me. For example, I'm waiting on itching feet for the final instalment of Katherine Kerr's Deverry saga, and that's, what, sixteen volumes is it now, or seventeen? I've never flagged once, and I could re-read the whole thing starting tomorrow (except they're all in a box in my mother's garage, along with a lot of my other books, sob). But Jordon lost me.
Also the violence became just too salaciously inventive, if you know what I mean.
1) I'm afraid I either do both, or neither. I'm not a Christian, if there's any connection there.
2) is it patriarchal trash? No. It's a wee bit sexist, but so is a heck of a lot else, including the whole of Dickens.
3) N/A
4) N/A
5) Nope
6) I can't remember very many of them - which come to think of it is also a bad sign.
7) Very happy for you, it has been a source of happiness and escape for many people over the years and there's nothing but good in being one of us.
8) Nope. I don't do "con"s.
9) I've done a lot of amateur drama, and wearing a costume is part of the fun - so if the answer to 8) above were in fact "yes", then yes, I would. Definately. One of those mad desert-people, the Fremen rip-offs with the really tough womenfolk. I could definately dress up as one of them.

Happy reading out there!

Jon said...

I gave up on Wheel of Time due to pure apathy. I think I quit at Book 9, I might have tried Book 10 out and then passed out while the wind that was not THE beginning but A beginning was blowing.

At that point, I had moved past seething hatred every time Nynaeve yanked her braid and no longer noticed it. No, by the time I had dragged my tired ass through the whole of Book 9, I just needed an ending and since there was no such thing in sight... I quit.

And was promptly sucked into George R. R. Martin's Songs of Ice and Fire...

Anonymous said...

1. No. It's a lazy generalization that's supposed to make us feel like we haven't been thinking deeply enough.
2. No. Women run that world. I hate the three-girls-on-Rand thing, though.
4. Book one. I only got through book nine or ten on my first go 'round.
5. Nope.
6. Faile.
7. Relieved.
8. Only if it were in a convenient/interesting location and free.
9. Ha! Maybe. Probably. I'd enjoy trying to look hotter than all the other semi-hot dorky babes in medieval outfits.

Caroline Starr Rose said...

My comment doesn't connect to epic fantasy in any way. Sorry!

Just saw you're reading Persuasion, too. I need to finish it by tonight, as I'm leading a book club discussion. I posted today about Jane Austen books and the embarrassing confession I've only read one other.

Please sign me up for your discussion.

angelle said...

i totally think that's true hahah

ella144 said...

1) I know LOTS of men who think it's true. I find it to be true some of the time and about some people. (That's a total cop out, I know. Forgive me. Or forget I said it.)

2) The strong female characters (some major and some minor) scattered throughout the books belie the "patriarchal trash" theories. One of my favorite aspects of series is watching the main characters (both M and F) grow into strong, interesting, and very flawed characters.

3) I love the series. It has flaws galore, and I love it.

4) I've started re-reading the entire series for the 3rd time in prep for THE GATHERING STORM's release.

5) I would love to go to the Charleston signing, but haven't decided yet.

6) My favorite(s) early in the series are Moiraine and Lan. Mat, Nynaeve, and Egwene grow up so much through the series and have become my favorites. Semirhage gives me the heebie-jeebies, and is the best Forsaken.

7) As for admitting your epic fantasy penchant... Welcome and have a cookie!

8) There IS a Wheel of Time convention. (What does it say about me that I know this?) It's called JordanCon and is held in Atlanta. Go to Dragonmount.com and search for more information. Wheel of Time also has a strong presence at DragonCon each year.

9) Any excuse to wear a costume! (Yes, Halloween is my favorite holiday.) It's a tie between a Seanchen-style outfit or a Sea-Folk outfit (with shirt). Ooh or maybe an Aiel outfit with black veil, or a slinky, Domani dress...

(I just re-read this and, OMG, I'm such a geek. Now returning to regularly scheduled, non-geek behavior.)

Pamala Knight said...

LOL!! OMG, you are BUSY before you toddle off to work...

I'm only going to stick to the excerpt in your post, and it's true--men forget but never forgive (which is contradictory in and of itself because honestly, how can you forget something but still know that you won't forgive, ergo you DIDN't forget). And women, well...let's just say that it serves us well to forgive the offense but not forget the lesson/circumstances that required the forgiveness in the first place.

I'm sure that others will have a field day with this and I'm going to stick my fingers in my ears singing lalalalalala, because I love WOT, patriarchial trash or not.

Thanks! My Friday needed a pick me up.

Caroline Starr Rose said...

Okay, Moonie, maybe my Persuasion comment wasn't so off track as far as the men/women/forgivenss topic goes.

Have you read chapter 23 yet?

kiaras said...

1 - That's probably a true statement.

2 - I don't believe it is. I think it has more far-reaching implications than that. I like to believe the whole thing is supposed to make people think, as well tell a good story. But (3-)mostly, I don't care. The story has brought me too much joy (see question 8).

4 - I'm not re-reading. I'm just going to read the new volumes until they're all out and then re-read. It takes too long otherwise.

5 - YES, I am. I've met Sanderson before and he truly seems like a nice guy.

6 - No, but I did name my desktop computer Min (because it's pretty useless) and my network Cadsuane (because no one gets any information out of her if she doesn't want to give it).

7 - I think it's great that you like WoT!

8 - I got married in the Wheel of Time track room at Dragon*Con. But don't tell anyone. (I met my husband because of WoT).

9 - Been there. Done that. Bought the Great Serpent ring.

I just wish I had time to sit and read all the many replies to this post!

Amber Argyle-Smith said...

#4: I've read all of them so far. I know Brandon, so I won't worry about hitting the tour. I'll just have him sign a copy when I see him at the next conference. (I'm awesome. I know.)

britmandelo said...

1) No. Trust me, no. "Women" and "men" can't ever be lumped together like that. It's the same as saying "all black people like watermelon" and it's damned stupid.

2) Yes. One character having slightly misogynistic tendencies, or even several characters, is appropriate. The author revealing his own through the action and lack of agency for his female characters, on the other hand, is not cool.

3) No, I couldn't finish the series because I kept wanting to throw the books across the room. Not so bad as Goodkind, but still bad.

4) Two books in, throwing ensued, never again. I have GRRM for good, deep, rich, gendered and socially heavy fantasy. Or, better yet on the gender and social theory note, Elizabeth Bear or Sarah Monette.

pacatrue said...

Men think it's true because they've forgotten the evidence showing it was false.

sex scenes at starbucks said...

You know, that's one of the four books I'm reading now. (Or 5, I've lost count.) Having trouble wading through it. The girls seem so...whiny.

Simon said...

1) No. It's hard to express how completely all my life experience runs counter to this. I mean, first of all, humans are such messy and unpredictable creatures that any rule that you would care to name that covers such a wide swath of the population - in this case, females, or males- is automatically crappy. In a more specific sense, this rule isn't true, at all - I'm not even saying that there might be some exceptions here and there, I'm saying that's not how the two different genders function. If there is any real, widespread and significant difference between the genders then it is almost certainly a function of cultural conditioning rather than some biological imperative.

2) Dunno.

3) Dunno.

4) Haven't started.

5) What?

6) Nope.

7) Pooh. The only true bibliophile is the one who gleefully stomps across the boundaries that separate genres, the one that has the Iliad, the Lord of the Rings, some Star Wars fanfiction, and Twilight, because he (or she) wanted to know what all the fuss was about, on his (or her) nightstand, and is reading all of them at once.

8) No.

9) Gah.

Daniel said...

Ha! That was always one of my favorite quotes from that series.

1. Yes, I do believe it's true.

2. I don't know that I would call it patriarchal per se, but I think there are some rather ridiculous male fantasies in there. Such as Rand and his 3 women that are, somehow, okay with the whole thing. I'm not buyin' it.

4. That being said, I've read the first 6 books about 5 or 6 times. I've only read 7-11 once each.

5. Nope. I'm actually not stoked, AT ALL, that's he's finishing the series. I just read the Mistborn series and I found the character incredibly 2 dimensional and rather unrealistic. They severely lacked the depth that Jordan acquired in his characters. However, I will read THE GATHERING STORM. I want to see what he does with it. But I am not holding my breath. I am prepared to drop it halfway through and never pick it up again.

6. I like Rand up until the 7th book, then he begins to annoy me a bit. So: Aviendha, Perrin & Mat. Bain & Chiad were pretty damn awesome as well.

7. Relieved. We need more intelligent folks that understand epic fantasy. Then, maybe, it would be more well-written in general.

8. Um, no. Can't say that I would. San Diego Comic Con is enough for me. Though I go there as an exhibitor, not just a fan ;)

9. No. Unless that costume consisted of my Levis 507s, Frye harness boots, a custom t-shirt and my Zara jacket. Then the answer is, yes.

Kiyote said...

I have re-read the entire series 2 times a year since it came out...takes longer with each additional book added.

Love it...very worried about the wrap up as I did not enjoy brandon's writing (nor his style - as it is not trad fantasy - so not sure how he can do this and tie up all the lines...i have read these books upwards of 20 times each atleast - how can he answer everything?).

We will see. I believe I have accepted that the characters died when Robert did (i would have used his real name there but it felt wrong).

Fav chars: Mat, Elayne, Rand, Thom, Aviendha, Perrin (before faile), Moiraine, and Loial.

Those I love - have many more i like.

Would dress up in costume as a character for halloween but no one would get it as they DONT READ. sigh - i hang with heathens.

Terresa said...

This is meaty. I'm off to discuss this with my other half (husband). I think I'm in agreement, though.

Tui said...

1. Nope. What I think Robert Jordan is identifying (and is mistakenly characterising as an inherent trait) is the social picture of women as back-stabbing bitches, which is IMO derived from a privileging of male friendships which stems back to the Greeks, and a denigration of female friendships.

Also, I cannot tell a lie - I think anyone who genuinely believes statements like "All women are like this, and all men are like this" is mistaken and needs to re-examine some prejudices. Never trust any generalisations like this - you wouldn't if it was "All white people are like this, and all black people are like this."

2. Yeah. There's a passage in Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson where he describes a hacker, Da5id, as one of those very smart men who are convinced they are too smart to be sexist. I think that's the problem with WoT. RJ thought sticking in women who are great characters, and in his early books having the most physically powerful characters (Aes Sedai) all be women, meant that his books couldn't be sexist. I think he's wrong.
- Now all the strongest characters are men (male channelers are all stronger than female channelers, because apparently channeling is just like arm-wrestling.)
- Use of the One Power is gender-essentialist - women are good at air and water; men are good at earth and fire. The way they handle saidin and saidar (men master saidin; women surrender to saidar) is emblematic of the way RJ thinks about women.
- There are some good things about that - RJ is good at identifying certain *typically female* characteristics as strengths, i.e. a willingness to bend with the wind and survive. The problem is that he then assigns all these characteristics to women, and all masculine characteristics to men. It's boring and sexist and it happens all the time.

Moira @10:59 hit it on the head for me - "strong women who are caricatures of themselves." I LOVED Nynaeve in the first two or three books - actually, I still love Nynaeve, but only if I retcon her behaviour for most of the rest of the series out of my head. (She can still be married to Lan, and she had her moments in the next-most-recent book, but other than that.) Also, Simon @4:43.

3. I do read them, although I will often skip bits and eyeroll at others. I don't adore them and yeah, that has a lot to do with some of the novels' latent sexism.

4. I have non-paper copies of these books, and I went through and re-read every scene with the word "Nynaeve" in it (CTRL-F is useful for this.) It's pretty interesting to note how much less time she gets in the later books, although of course that's true of almost every character except Rand, even Mat and Perrin.

5. Nope.

6. My favourite characters are Nynaeve, Lan, Mat, and Egwene. I like Siuan too. Unless you mean actual names... I think Arafellin is a really pretty name! (And, OK, it's a name of a country, not a person, so sue me.) I also think Morgase gives good Arthurian vibes.

Angie Handley said...

I got fed up around book 8 or so, but my husband made me read the rest recently by refusing to let me come to bed at night until I'd made more progress. Argh!

Glad he did now though. Wouldn't like to have to start again when the new one hits, and after the slump in the middle they do pick up again a bit.

Robert W. Leonard said...

People take this much more seriously than I expected! Though I guess that shouldn't surprise me. hehe

BuffySquirrel said...

1. As true as most generalisations--ie true or untrue depending on your personal experience.

2. No idea.

3. N/A

4. Rereading? I've never started reading.

5. No.

6. No.

7. No opinion :).

8. No.

9. Not to go?

Gosh I'm dull.

varethane said...

I am a huge fan of Epic Fantasy, and yet I never did finish the Wheel of Time saga. :C This could be because I was about twelve or thirteen at the time, and I couldn't find all of the books in the library... but I did love the first two books, and reread them several times.

In any case! I wasn't so big on literary analysis at the time, but I remember liking the Aes Sedai and being less annoyed with the lead female characters than I usually was in fantasy novels (though that feeling did change some after Saidin was unlocked and Rand Al'Thor turned into a huge flaming douche). So, going purely on instinct, I'll say that they started off as no patriarchal trash at all, but started swerving into that territory the further along it went. Provided you stop after book 2 or 3, you're fine.

I plan on rereading them after the last book comes out! Though I won't be attending the tour (unless he happens to swing by Halifax, Nova Scotia).

I remember liking Perren a lot at first, then a different character whose name I can't remember... oog... I'll just have to reread them all when the last book comes out, I guess!

Sarahlynn said...

I missed that you're reading these. My guilty pleasure!

1) Not universally.

2) Yes, AND . . .

3) Yes, and I'm OK with it. It could be much worse! (Actually, it does get worse in later books when all the female characters begin to sound alike and develop a habit of spanking one another with shocking frequency. I really do mean actual hand/brush to bottom spanking.)

4) I've read them all more than once. I was given half of the first book for free as a promotion at a major chain bookstore when I was still in college. I'd read the earlier ones in preparation for the release of each new one.

5) If he comes near here, I might go. I enjoy Sanderson's writing but even more than that I love his humble blogging about how HARD he works as a writer. He's incredibly disciplined. Does this come with being LDS? He probably doesn't own a Wii.

6) Aviendha

7) RELIEVED

8) You mean, like Dragon Con? Someday, when the children are older and the money flows freely. Some of my friends go.

9) Nope. But I will look on the website and enjoy pictures of Wheel of Time costumed weddings.

P.S. I HATED A Song of Fire and Ice. And the worst I've read for misogyny in fantasy is David Eddings. Sorry to speak ill of the dead.

Kenny said...

Oh, me next, me next! d^_^b

1) It certainly can be. This is the beauty of pithy stereotypes. If they're true often enough, they sound wise, even if it is trivial to think of counterexamples.

2) I guess this depends on what kind of feminist you are. If by "patriarchal" you mean "marginalizes and patronizes the feminine" then no--indeed, few books so strongly emphasize the power of "the feminine." If by patriarchal you mean "portrays men and women as inherently different," then yes, RJ does that.

3) N/A

4) I'm not re-reading this time. I've read the series from beginning to end enough times that I don't see any need.

5) I don't know. Probably.

6) Always been partial to Rand.

7) It's fun!

8) I'm not really the con type. I can't handle crowds.

9) Yeah, probably, if I had a good one.

Christa said...

1) Is it true?

I had this discussion years ago with a male. I told him I forgive, but I never forget. (at the time, I didn't know that was a gender trait). Interestingly, he responded with "then you never really forgive." I think I do forgive, but to forget means to fall into the same situation again.

2) Is THE WHEEL OF TIME patriarchical trash, as it has been accused of?

I don't know about patriarchical trash, but I personally have issues with the way women are portrayed in the books. There seems to be this distinct gender line in every city/town in the book, which I don't like. Also, in my interpretation, women are portrayed as smarter and more willful (or stubborn) than men, but also snobbish. It's like the women tend to look down their noses at the men which really bothers me.

3) If you believe the answer to #2 is yes, to you read and adore anyway? Does this make you hate yourself, or are you ok with it at this point?

I read as fiction. Jordon's design of this particular world and the societies that inhabit it.

4) How far are you in YOUR rereading of THE WHEEL OF TIME?

Alas, reading once through was enough for me. I'll wait till Sanderson's release to pick it up again.

5) Are you going to any stops on Brandon Sanderson's rather back-breaking release tour for THE GATHERING STORM?

Nope.

6) Have you chosen your favorite character name yet?

I don't like it quite that much, although I do enjoy Matt and I like Lan as well.

7) Are you relieved or disappointed that Moonrat has revealed her penchant for epic fantasy, after all these years of hiding behind literary fiction?

I LOVE epic fantasy, so it's great that moonrat has come out of the fantasy closet!

8) Would you go to a Wheel of Time convention if you heard of one?

Depends on costs and distance.

9) Would you wear a costume?

Absolutely not.